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> > I have excellent news :)
> >
> > http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/4/27/oxford-internet-institute
> 
> Congratulations Wybo! what an achievement!
> 
> Looking forward for another of your great works!

Ty, :-)

Sadly I have been too busy revising (& seeing my GF) over the last few
weeks (attempting to get a First class degree, as they say here in
England), and will be for another small week (last exam on Friday).

Then I will be back at LogiLogi. For one month almost full-time.

Wybo

> un fuerte abrazo!
> -- 
> Bruno

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Congratulations Wybo..
Well done.
Our best wishes are with you.
Party time
Cheers
Bhupendra



On 4/27/10, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
>
> I have excellent news :)
>
> http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/4/27/oxford-internet-institute
>
> > Hi Wybo and all,
> >
> > it's very nice to see how you keep LL moving forward!
>
> :-)
>
> > usability has been improving a lot lately! I wish I could get down to
> > work, but I just can't right now... :(
>
> I understand. I am also quite busy for the coming four weeks with my
> exams coming up. But at the end of May I should have more time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Wybo
>
> > greetings!
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...>
> wrote:
> > > Have been busy in the last weeks, and am working on an essay now on
> > > the various conceptualizations of critical mass, and on how critical
> > > mass affects collaborative hypertext applications. Exams will also be
> > > coming up soon.
> > >
> > > Will hopefully be able to put some sketches on-line in the next week,
> > > depending on how things go (hope to hear the outcome of an application
> > > for an MSc I am really looking forward to)...
> > >
> > > Wybo
> > >
> > >> We received good and useful results from the usability study.
> > >>
> > >> Some simple simplifications we will do are showing remarks versus
> > >> links in different shades of blue, instead of highlighting the
> > >> background, as people see that as highlighting.
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > LogiLogi-list mailing list
> > > Log...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > LogiLogi-list mailing list
> > Log...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
>
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> ::Student:
> - MA in Digital Humanities at King's College London
> - 3 first class BAs: in Information Science, History and Philosophy
>
> ::Secretary of the Members Council of Goodenough College:
> - Room 2150, London House, Mecklenburgh Square, London WC1N 2AB, UK
>
> ::Free Software and Open Source Developer:
> - http://www.LogiLogi.org, Cumulative, shared commenting, publication and
>                           idea sharing: Philosophy beyond the Book...
>
>
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> I have excellent news :)
>
> http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/4/27/oxford-internet-institute

Congratulations Wybo! what an achievement!

Looking forward for another of your great works!

un fuerte abrazo!
-- 
Bruno

I have excellent news :)

http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/4/27/oxford-internet-institute

> Hi Wybo and all,
> 
> it's very nice to see how you keep LL moving forward!

:-)

> usability has been improving a lot lately! I wish I could get down to
> work, but I just can't right now... :(

I understand. I am also quite busy for the coming four weeks with my
exams coming up. But at the end of May I should have more time.

Sincerely,

Wybo

> greetings!
> 
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> > Have been busy in the last weeks, and am working on an essay now on
> > the various conceptualizations of critical mass, and on how critical
> > mass affects collaborative hypertext applications. Exams will also be
> > coming up soon.
> >
> > Will hopefully be able to put some sketches on-line in the next week,
> > depending on how things go (hope to hear the outcome of an application
> > for an MSc I am really looking forward to)...
> >
> > Wybo
> >
> >> We received good and useful results from the usability study.
> >>
> >> Some simple simplifications we will do are showing remarks versus
> >> links in different shades of blue, instead of highlighting the
> >> background, as people see that as highlighting.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > LogiLogi-list mailing list
> > Log...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bruno
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> LogiLogi-list mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list

-- 
::Student:
- MA in Digital Humanities at King's College London
- 3 first class BAs: in Information Science, History and Philosophy

::Secretary of the Members Council of Goodenough College:
- Room 2150, London House, Mecklenburgh Square, London WC1N 2AB, UK

::Free Software and Open Source Developer:
- http://www.LogiLogi.org, Cumulative, shared commenting, publication and
                           idea sharing: Philosophy beyond the Book...

Hi Wybo and all,

it's very nice to see how you keep LL moving forward!

usability has been improving a lot lately! I wish I could get down to
work, but I just can't right now... :(

greetings!

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> Have been busy in the last weeks, and am working on an essay now on
> the various conceptualizations of critical mass, and on how critical
> mass affects collaborative hypertext applications. Exams will also be
> coming up soon.
>
> Will hopefully be able to put some sketches on-line in the next week,
> depending on how things go (hope to hear the outcome of an application
> for an MSc I am really looking forward to)...
>
> Wybo
>
>> We received good and useful results from the usability study.
>>
>> Some simple simplifications we will do are showing remarks versus
>> links in different shades of blue, instead of highlighting the
>> background, as people see that as highlighting.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> LogiLogi-list mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
>



-- 
Bruno

Dear Wybo,
good work going on ..
Take care.
Warm regards




On 4/25/10, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
>
> Have been busy in the last weeks, and am working on an essay now on
> the various conceptualizations of critical mass, and on how critical
> mass affects collaborative hypertext applications. Exams will also be
> coming up soon.
>
> Will hopefully be able to put some sketches on-line in the next week,
> depending on how things go (hope to hear the outcome of an application
> for an MSc I am really looking forward to)...
>
> Wybo
>
> > We received good and useful results from the usability study.
> >
> > Some simple simplifications we will do are showing remarks versus
> > links in different shades of blue, instead of highlighting the
> > background, as people see that as highlighting.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> LogiLogi-list mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
>

Have been busy in the last weeks, and am working on an essay now on
the various conceptualizations of critical mass, and on how critical
mass affects collaborative hypertext applications. Exams will also be
coming up soon. 

Will hopefully be able to put some sketches on-line in the next week, 
depending on how things go (hope to hear the outcome of an application
for an MSc I am really looking forward to)...

Wybo

> We received good and useful results from the usability study.
> 
> Some simple simplifications we will do are showing remarks versus
> links in different shades of blue, instead of highlighting the
> background, as people see that as highlighting.

We received good and useful results from the usability study.

Some simple simplifications we will do are showing remarks versus
links in different shades of blue, instead of highlighting the
background, as people see that as highlighting.

Another improvement we will be launching soon is a demo-video of 
LogiLogi. And then there's some more things.

Besides the people of Der Blaue Reiter proposed some simplifications:

> that LogiLogi menu should be simplified and the main page
> redesigned:
> 
> - The main page should be like the browse page except that the
> initialy shown logis on the left should be replaced by the left
> column content of the current main page.  - The search field on the
> new main page should be a full text search field (as on the current
> search page). Ideally the tag-list on the right should remain even
> after a search query was send and should be narrowed down according
> to the full text search result (only display tags used in found
> logis). Also if a user starts searching by clicking on a tag, the
> results should be narrowed down by a following full text search
> query.

This sounds like a good idea, will be making some sketches soon.

> - Drop nearly every menu item. The new menu should contain:
> "Main page" (as described), "New", "Login"/"Signup"/"Profile". So
> essentially there should only be one menu row.

One menu-row would make things a lot simpler indeed.

> Reasoning regarding the alterations: "Main page", "Search", "Browse"
> should be combined the way described to make the interface more user
> friendly.  "Attach to phrase", "Edit" should appear somewhere on the
> view page (maybe at the location of the permanent link) and not as a

We were already working towards this :)

> menu item as it makes.  We do not think the "View" menu item is
> necessary.  "Changes" and "Users" are already reachable via the main
> page.

I think we should not get rid of changes and users (especially if renamed 
to logi blogs).

> We feel that this minimalism should give the user a better
> experience in that it provides all necessary features but still
> requires little to no knowledge about the system used.

I'm all for minimalism.

So what do others think of this? Bruno?

A potential problem would be that having it all in one menu-row will make 
it impossible to add things such as the polarity, or separate paths. Will 
be thinking about it and be making some svg sketches. 

Ideas and opinions most welcome.

Wybo

> Great going Wybo,
> All the best for your exam.
> Regards
> Bhupendra Mishra
> 
> > This weekend I am going do an usability test of LogiLogi at a Mensa
> > philosophy weekend in Oxford. I will be asking about five people to
> > try it out to see where it could be improved.
> >
> > Also I committed (to docs/ui-designs/spring2010) some sketches for
> > addding some polarity to LogiLogi, by listing things for and against
> > something side-by-side.  Still don't know if it's a good idea, but
> > it's also something I will ask the participants in the survey.

Great going Wybo,
All the best for your exam.
Regards
Bhupendra Mishra



On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:

> This weekend I am going do an usability test of LogiLogi at a Mensa
> philosophy weekend in Oxford. I will be asking about five people to
> try it out to see where it could be improved.
>
> Also I committed (to docs/ui-designs/spring2010) some sketches for
> addding some polarity to LogiLogi, by listing things for and against
> something side-by-side.  Still don't know if it's a good idea, but
> it's also something I will ask the participants in the survey.
>
> In the meantime I have applied all suggestions made in the study of
> some months ago, most notably removing the requirement for tags and a
> title, making tab work on the signup page, and some other small
> things. Haven't updated the live site yet, but will do that once the
> other improvements are done.
>
> Besides LogiLogi I am now working on essays, and preparing a big exam
> for May (about more than 12 books and then some articles).
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Wybo
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> _______________________________________________
> LogiLogi-list mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
>

This weekend I am going do an usability test of LogiLogi at a Mensa
philosophy weekend in Oxford. I will be asking about five people to
try it out to see where it could be improved.

Also I committed (to docs/ui-designs/spring2010) some sketches for
addding some polarity to LogiLogi, by listing things for and against
something side-by-side.  Still don't know if it's a good idea, but
it's also something I will ask the participants in the survey.

In the meantime I have applied all suggestions made in the study of
some months ago, most notably removing the requirement for tags and a
title, making tab work on the signup page, and some other small
things. Haven't updated the live site yet, but will do that once the
other improvements are done.

Besides LogiLogi I am now working on essays, and preparing a big exam
for May (about more than 12 books and then some articles).

Sincerely,

Wybo

> Hi Wybo,
> 
> Glad to hear from  you.
> I am working with a company in India as software engineer. My core
> technology is Java and J2EE and here in India i am woking as websphere
> adminstrator. At the same time very much impressed with Ruby on Rails. So am
> eger to work/participate in development/improvement in LL site as well if
> you wish.

Sorry for the slightly late reply (busy here) & Welcome! 

I've been in India only once, but I really liked it (Kerala area).
Found it beautiful and very vibrant.

About LL, what part of the website would you most like to 
participate on. The Back-end or UI/JS?

Also did you already manage to install it on your local machine?
(instructions are here, but feel free to ask if you run into any
problems: http://www.logilogi.org/pub/doc/app/)

Sincerely,

Wybo

> Bhupendra dot mishra @ gmail dot com.
> # +91 9811956575
> 
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> 
> > > Great improvements Wybo and Catherine! Great comunication and simplicity.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > I've done some further improvements in response to the first usability
> > study. The attach to phrase button is now at the bottom of logis and the
> > active tabs are now accentuated with a blue line, so people don't miss
> > them. Also pressing enter at the account-creation form now submits it.
> >
> > (also the presentations went well, good feedback)
> >
> > > I'll be without time for at least a month, hope it will be less.
> >
> > I will also be very busy over the coming weeks, as I have two big
> > exams coming up. Then as of May I will be working on my thesis on
> > getting a critical mass of users for LL, and this allows time for
> > improving the site as well.
> >
> > Also @ Bhupendra Mishra; welcome!, you seem to be new to this group?
> > Are you working with Rails/sites as well, or interested in LL from a
> > philosophical background?
> >
> > greetings,
> >
> > Wybo
> >
> > > It's so nice to hear improvements on LL!
> > >
> > > greetings!
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...>
> > wrote:
> > > > I am about to give my presentation at the London Seminar in Digital
> > > > Text and Scholarship:
> > > >
> > http://www.sas.ac.uk/events/visitor_events.php?page=ies_seminars&func=results&aoi_id=200
> > > >
> > > > I've also done some small UI-improvements over the last few weeks, in
> > > > response to the comments on it by my girlfriend Catherine, who did a
> > > > MA in computer usability :-)
> > > >
> > > > The most notable improvements are:
> > > > at: http://en.logilogi.org
> > > > - at the bottom of logis there is now a simple looking comment box
> > > >  that opens the complete one.
> > > > - when inserting things (now called attaching), the thing to be
> > > >  inserted is created first, and only then the selection is made.
> > > >  Also there is a 'save and attach more' button at the bottom.
> > > > - peergroups are temporarily disabled, so all users vote in the same,
> > > >  General peergroup (this to make the attainment of critical mass
> > > >  easier).
> > > >
> > > > I am also all for in-line editing, and creating (in-line inserting
> > > > likely is too complicated for now). So if you can do that, Bruno, it
> > > > would be cool. Though I understand it if you consider the rails & AJAX-
> > > > bits difficult, then I will do it myself.
> > > >
> > > > greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Wybo

Hi Wybo,

Glad to hear from  you.
I am working with a company in India as software engineer. My core
technology is Java and J2EE and here in India i am wrking as webspherre
adminstrator. At the same time very much imressed with Ruby on Rails. So am
eger to work/participate in development/improvement in LL site as well if
you wish.
Bhupendra dot mishra @ gmail dot com.
# +91 9811956575

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:

> > Great improvements Wybo and Catherine! Great comunication and simplicity.
>
> :-)
>
> I've done some further improvements in response to the first usability
> study. The attach to phrase button is now at the bottom of logis and the
> active tabs are now accentuated with a blue line, so people don't miss
> them. Also pressing enter at the account-creation form now submits it.
>
> (also the presentations went well, good feedback)
>
> > I'll be without time for at least a month, hope it will be less.
>
> I will also be very busy over the coming weeks, as I have two big
> exams coming up. Then as of May I will be working on my thesis on
> getting a critical mass of users for LL, and this allows time for
> improving the site as well.
>
> Also @ Bhupendra Mishra; welcome!, you seem to be new to this group?
> Are you working with Rails/sites as well, or interested in LL from a
> philosophical background?
>
> greetings,
>
> Wybo
>
> > It's so nice to hear improvements on LL!
> >
> > greetings!
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...>
> wrote:
> > > I am about to give my presentation at the London Seminar in Digital
> > > Text and Scholarship:
> > >
> http://www.sas.ac.uk/events/visitor_events.php?page=ies_seminars&func=results&aoi_id=200
> > >
> > > I've also done some small UI-improvements over the last few weeks, in
> > > response to the comments on it by my girlfriend Catherine, who did a
> > > MA in computer usability :-)
> > >
> > > The most notable improvements are:
> > > at: http://en.logilogi.org
> > > - at the bottom of logis there is now a simple looking comment box
> > >  that opens the complete one.
> > > - when inserting things (now called attaching), the thing to be
> > >  inserted is created first, and only then the selection is made.
> > >  Also there is a 'save and attach more' button at the bottom.
> > > - peergroups are temporarily disabled, so all users vote in the same,
> > >  General peergroup (this to make the attainment of critical mass
> > >  easier).
> > >
> > > I am also all for in-line editing, and creating (in-line inserting
> > > likely is too complicated for now). So if you can do that, Bruno, it
> > > would be cool. Though I understand it if you consider the rails & AJAX-
> > > bits difficult, then I will do it myself.
> > >
> > > greetings,
> > >
> > > Wybo
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> > > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> > > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> > > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > LogiLogi-list mailing list
> > > Log...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > LogiLogi-list mailing list
> > Log...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
>
> --
> ::Student:
> - MA in Digital Humanities at King's College London
> - 3 first class BAs: in Information Science, History and Philosophy
>
> ::Secretary of the Members Council of Goodenough College:
> - Room 2150, London House, Mecklenburgh Square, London WC1N 2AB, UK
>
> ::Free Software and Open Source Developer:
> - http://www.LogiLogi.org <," rel="nofollow">http://www.logilogi.org/>, Cumulative, shared
> commenting, publication and
>                           idea sharing: Philosophy beyond the Book...
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> _______________________________________________
> LogiLogi-list mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
>

> Great improvements Wybo and Catherine! Great comunication and simplicity.

:-)

I've done some further improvements in response to the first usability 
study. The attach to phrase button is now at the bottom of logis and the 
active tabs are now accentuated with a blue line, so people don't miss 
them. Also pressing enter at the account-creation form now submits it.

(also the presentations went well, good feedback)

> I'll be without time for at least a month, hope it will be less.

I will also be very busy over the coming weeks, as I have two big
exams coming up. Then as of May I will be working on my thesis on
getting a critical mass of users for LL, and this allows time for 
improving the site as well.

Also @ Bhupendra Mishra; welcome!, you seem to be new to this group? 
Are you working with Rails/sites as well, or interested in LL from a
philosophical background?

greetings,

Wybo

> It's so nice to hear improvements on LL!
> 
> greetings!
> 
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> > I am about to give my presentation at the London Seminar in Digital
> > Text and Scholarship:
> > http://www.sas.ac.uk/events/visitor_events.php?page=ies_seminars&func=results&aoi_id=200
> >
> > I've also done some small UI-improvements over the last few weeks, in
> > response to the comments on it by my girlfriend Catherine, who did a
> > MA in computer usability :-)
> >
> > The most notable improvements are:
> > at: http://en.logilogi.org
> > - at the bottom of logis there is now a simple looking comment box
> >  that opens the complete one.
> > - when inserting things (now called attaching), the thing to be
> >  inserted is created first, and only then the selection is made.
> >  Also there is a 'save and attach more' button at the bottom.
> > - peergroups are temporarily disabled, so all users vote in the same,
> >  General peergroup (this to make the attainment of critical mass
> >  easier).
> >
> > I am also all for in-line editing, and creating (in-line inserting
> > likely is too complicated for now). So if you can do that, Bruno, it
> > would be cool. Though I understand it if you consider the rails & AJAX-
> > bits difficult, then I will do it myself.
> >
> > greetings,
> >
> > Wybo
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > LogiLogi-list mailing list
> > Log...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bruno
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> _______________________________________________
> LogiLogi-list mailing list
> Log...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/logilogi-list

-- 
::Student:
- MA in Digital Humanities at King's College London
- 3 first class BAs: in Information Science, History and Philosophy

::Secretary of the Members Council of Goodenough College:
- Room 2150, London House, Mecklenburgh Square, London WC1N 2AB, UK

::Free Software and Open Source Developer:
- http://www.LogiLogi.org, Cumulative, shared commenting, publication and
                           idea sharing: Philosophy beyond the Book...

Great improvements Wybo and Catherine! Great comunication and simplicity.

I'll be without time for at least a month, hope it will be less.

It's so nice to hear improvements on LL!

greetings!

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> I am about to give my presentation at the London Seminar in Digital
> Text and Scholarship:
> http://www.sas.ac.uk/events/visitor_events.php?page=ies_seminars&func=results&aoi_id=200
>
> I've also done some small UI-improvements over the last few weeks, in
> response to the comments on it by my girlfriend Catherine, who did a
> MA in computer usability :-)
>
> The most notable improvements are:
> at: http://en.logilogi.org
> - at the bottom of logis there is now a simple looking comment box
>  that opens the complete one.
> - when inserting things (now called attaching), the thing to be
>  inserted is created first, and only then the selection is made.
>  Also there is a 'save and attach more' button at the bottom.
> - peergroups are temporarily disabled, so all users vote in the same,
>  General peergroup (this to make the attainment of critical mass
>  easier).
>
> I am also all for in-line editing, and creating (in-line inserting
> likely is too complicated for now). So if you can do that, Bruno, it
> would be cool. Though I understand it if you consider the rails & AJAX-
> bits difficult, then I will do it myself.
>
> greetings,
>
> Wybo
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Gud going..
Thank you for the gud comment by your Girlfriend

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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:

> I am about to give my presentation at the London Seminar in Digital
> Text and Scholarship:
>
> http://www.sas.ac.uk/events/visitor_events.php?page=ies_seminars&func=results&aoi_id=200
>
> I've also done some small UI-improvements over the last few weeks, in
> response to the comments on it by my girlfriend Catherine, who did a
> MA in computer usability :-)
>
> The most notable improvements are:
> at: http://en.logilogi.org
> - at the bottom of logis there is now a simple looking comment box
>  that opens the complete one.
> - when inserting things (now called attaching), the thing to be
>  inserted is created first, and only then the selection is made.
>  Also there is a 'save and attach more' button at the bottom.
> - peergroups are temporarily disabled, so all users vote in the same,
>  General peergroup (this to make the attainment of critical mass
>  easier).
>
> I am also all for in-line editing, and creating (in-line inserting
> likely is too complicated for now). So if you can do that, Bruno, it
> would be cool. Though I understand it if you consider the rails & AJAX-
> bits difficult, then I will do it myself.
>
> greetings,
>
> Wybo
>
>
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I am about to give my presentation at the London Seminar in Digital 
Text and Scholarship:
http://www.sas.ac.uk/events/visitor_events.php?page=ies_seminars&func=results&aoi_id=200

I've also done some small UI-improvements over the last few weeks, in
response to the comments on it by my girlfriend Catherine, who did a
MA in computer usability :-)

The most notable improvements are:
at: http://en.logilogi.org
- at the bottom of logis there is now a simple looking comment box
  that opens the complete one.
- when inserting things (now called attaching), the thing to be 
  inserted is created first, and only then the selection is made. 
  Also there is a 'save and attach more' button at the bottom.
- peergroups are temporarily disabled, so all users vote in the same,
  General peergroup (this to make the attainment of critical mass
  easier).

I am also all for in-line editing, and creating (in-line inserting
likely is too complicated for now). So if you can do that, Bruno, it
would be cool. Though I understand it if you consider the rails & AJAX-
bits difficult, then I will do it myself.

greetings,

Wybo

Created a blog-post about it at:
http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/3/1/at-digital-humanities-2010-and-at-the-london-seminar

The German translation for Der Blaue Reiter is coming along nicely as
well. Hopefully there will be a launch of it soon.

As the usability of LogiLogi goes with respect to inserting
annotations, we could go for the simplest solution possible, which
would be allowing users to select some text, have a pop-over open
in which they can either insert an annotation directly, and submit
it, or click on a series of buttons to take them to the insert-
page, with the selected text already selected.

In this way we would have kind of a hybrid approach, which does not
break the current site...

greetings,

Wybo

> LogiLogi, and it's quest for critical mass, have been accepted as a
> poster-presentation at the Digital Humanities 2010 conference, here in
> London this summer...
> 
> Looking forward to it, and have been fixing bugs in LL in the mean-
> time.
> 
> I will also be giving a presentation on LogiLogi for a group of non-
> academic philosophers at the ISVW (isvw.nl) in the Netherlands on the
> 13th of March. Hope to do a small usability study there as well.
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Wybo

LogiLogi, and it's quest for critical mass, have been accepted as a
poster-presentation at the Digital Humanities 2010 conference, here in
London this summer...

Looking forward to it, and have been fixing bugs in LL in the mean-
time.

I will also be giving a presentation on LogiLogi for a group of non-
academic philosophers at the ISVW (isvw.nl) in the Netherlands on the
13th of March. Hope to do a small usability study there as well.

greetings,

Wybo

> > Great to hear that things are good and that you have time soon. We
> > can discuss options for the pop-over.
> 
> It's always nice to see your constant work on LogiLogi, I'm glad to be
> able to contribute some bits!!!

:-)

> We'll be in touch, greetings!

Before then, I wish you a happy birthday today! Hope you have a good
party, and sad I can't be there (but maybe next year if/when I'm in
the US).

Wybo

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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> Great to hear that things are good and that you have time soon. We
> can discuss options for the pop-over.
>

It's always nice to see your constant work on LogiLogi, I'm glad to be
able to contribute some bits!!!

We'll be in touch, greetings!

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> > http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Sharing_Ideas=Wybo_Wiersma_125
> > http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Usability=Wybo_Wiersma_124
> > http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Similar_To/Blog=Wybo_Wiersma_127
> >
> > Ideas and comments welcome,
> 
> Good writings Wybo.
> 
> I'm willing to work on the usability improvements you talk about and
> other things like spanish translation. I'll have time for this from
> next month. It would be great if Miguel could find some time too.

Great to hear that things are good and that you have time soon. We 
can discuss options for the pop-over.

Just saw a bug-report come in by Miguel, about an OpenID issue if
people log in with a wrong OpenID. Will try to ferret it out this 
evening unless there's a fix already.

> Meanwhile I'll keep reading the list :)

:-)

Wybo

PS: Also just received an e-mail by a Dutch group of amateur
Philosophers who might be interested in LogiLogi, but will have 
to see what comes out of it...

> Greetings!
> -- 
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> I just came back from the LiquidPub Second Snow workshop:
> http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/2/9/liquidpub-second-snow-workshop
>
> Was a fascinating conference with a good atmosphere.
>
> The presentation on LogiLogi went well, and most people were quite
> positive about it (which is good, given that it is the audience most
> specialized in things such as LogiLogi, that I gave a presentation for
> so far).
>
> Yet LogiLogi and LiquidPub are totally different, and also aim to do
> different things. Where the LiquidPub project mostly seems to be about
> research, and replacing publishing, LogiLogi is a simple small project
> which tries to build usable software.
>
> It also gave me time to think about LogiLogi, and it's possible weak
> spots. I wrote some Logis about them:
> http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Sharing_Ideas=Wybo_Wiersma_125
> http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Usability=Wybo_Wiersma_124
> http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Similar_To/Blog=Wybo_Wiersma_127
>
> Ideas and comments welcome,
>

Good writings Wybo.

I'm willing to work on the usability improvements you talk about and
other things like spanish translation. I'll have time for this from
next month. It would be great if Miguel could find some time too.
Meanwhile I'll keep reading the list :)

Greetings!
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I just came back from the LiquidPub Second Snow workshop:
http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/2/9/liquidpub-second-snow-workshop

Was a fascinating conference with a good atmosphere.

The presentation on LogiLogi went well, and most people were quite
positive about it (which is good, given that it is the audience most
specialized in things such as LogiLogi, that I gave a presentation for
so far).

Yet LogiLogi and LiquidPub are totally different, and also aim to do
different things. Where the LiquidPub project mostly seems to be about
research, and replacing publishing, LogiLogi is a simple small project
which tries to build usable software.

It also gave me time to think about LogiLogi, and it's possible weak
spots. I wrote some Logis about them:
http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Sharing_Ideas=Wybo_Wiersma_125
http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Usability=Wybo_Wiersma_124
http://en.logilogi.org/Logi_Logi/Weak_Points/Similar_To/Blog=Wybo_Wiersma_127

Ideas and comments welcome,

greetings,

Wybo

Hi all, has been some time since I e-mailed, but I have been working
really hard, also on LogiLogi.

Studying Digital Humanities was a good experience so far.

As of now LogiLogi is officially ready for translation (was a long
time todo, but now finally done, also for Der Blaue Reiter).

In addition I will be going to the LiquidPub workshop in Switzerland
next week to present LogiLogi.

See these two new blog-posts:

http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/1/28/digital-humanities-four-essays-two-on-logilogi
http://foundation.logilogi.org/2010/1/29/logilogi-ready-for-translation-at-liquidpub-workshop

Note also that I created a developer-snapshot of LogiLogi at:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/logilogi/files/, which includes 
rails and all needed gems, but so far I haven't been able to
test it yet (am at this moment installing a VM to do so).

greetings,

Wybo Wiersma

Merry christmas for all logilogi folks!

greetings!

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Wybo Wiersma <ma...@wy...> wrote:
> I'm almost finished with my PhD applications, and am now going home
> for Christmas (by ferry)... Time in the UK so far has been great, but
> quite busy.
>
> Will be working on making LogiLogi translateable over the coming
> week(s), especially in the evenings...
>
> greetings,
>
> Wybo
>
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