EP0142817A2 - Méthode de test pour système d'allumage de moteur à combustion interne - Google Patents
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02P—IGNITION, OTHER THAN COMPRESSION IGNITION, FOR INTERNAL-COMBUSTION ENGINES; TESTING OF IGNITION TIMING IN COMPRESSION-IGNITION ENGINES
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- the invention relates to a test method for ignition systems of internal combustion engines in motor vehicles.
- the ignition system is checked for proper function. For this purpose, a characteristic value of the ignition voltage signal, for example the maximum value, is compared with a predetermined target value. As an alternative to this, the ignition voltage signal can also be compared with a corresponding signal from another cylinder or the ignition voltage signal of all cylinders. If these signals are the same as each other, the ignition device is OK, but if one or more of these signals deviate greatly from one another, the ignition system is likely to be faulty. However, this only allows a relatively rough statement about the condition of the ignition system.
- the invention has for its object to provide a test method of the type mentioned, which provides precise information about the element determining the condition of the ignition system and thus about the ignition system as such.
- the invention solves this problem in that, in order to test the electrode distance of a spark plug, the target signal is taken at the beginning of a test period and in an operating state which is at least approximately the same as the current operating state at the time of the test.
- the invention initially assumes that the condition of the ignition system is determined almost exclusively by the spark plugs which are subject to wear, since further wear parts are not present, in particular in the case of contactless ignition systems.
- Known test methods for spark plugs infer the state of the spark plugs from the level of the ignition voltage on the secondary side (cf. DE-OS 23 22 834, DE-OS 26 08 707 and US Pat. No. 2,430,069).
- the invention offers two major advantages. On the one hand, the test is carried out using the primary-side ignition voltage signal, the amplitudes of which are far lower than the secondary-side signal.
- the test is carried out without intervention in the ignition system, while in the known spark plug test methods the secondary-side ignition voltage signal is supplied externally with the aid of separate adapters.
- the invention thus makes it possible to continuously determine the wear of the spark plugs without intervention in the ignition system and to provide a relative statement about the condition of the spark plugs at any time during operation.
- This operating state can be, for example, the overrun operation of the internal combustion engine. If it is an internal combustion engine with a so-called overrun cut-off, ie the interruption of the fuel supply in overrun mode, the influence of the Mixture on the test result completely excluded.
- the switch available for the detection of overrun operation for example on the throttle valve, can also be used to initiate the test method. But even without overrun cut-off, overrun mode offers the possibility to carry out the test of the spark plug under approximately the same and constant test conditions. For this purpose, it is then still necessary to take into account the speed or the speed curve of the internal combustion engine.
- the test period over which the entire test of the spark plug should extend can be chosen freely and with any starting point. In contrast, there are advantages to starting the test period with the start-up of the spark plug. This ensures that the spark plug at the beginning of the test period in, Trim g are and the changes of the primary side Zündschreibssignals are based on the total wear of the spark plug.
- the start of the test period can be determined arbitrarily or with the aid of a signal triggered automatically when maintenance is carried out.
- the prerequisite for the latter is that it involves maintenance in which the spark plugs are routinely replaced.
- Diagrams A and B shown in FIG. 1 show the primary-side ignition voltage signal of a spark plug with a normal (A) and too large (B) electrode spacing. It can clearly be seen that the two ignition voltage signals differ essentially in three points. For one thing, the greater the electrode spacing, the greater the maximum amplitude (a). Secondly, the larger the electrode spacing, the greater the internal voltage (b), and thirdly, the shorter the electrode spacing, the longer the burning time (d).
- the two diagrams A and B show the course of the ignition voltage signal in at least approximately the same operating state of the internal combustion engine, in the present case in overrun mode with the fuel supply switched off and the same number of engine revolutions.
- the reason for the different course of the primary-side ignition voltage signals is a correspondingly different course of the secondary-side ignition voltage signals, not shown. These, in turn, are caused by the different electrical conditions for the ignition spark between the two electrodes of the spark plug, which are dependent on the electrode spacing, during the burning period d.
- the circuit shown in FIG. 2 serves to determine the ignition voltage amplitude a.
- the ignition signal is taken between an induction transmitter (not shown) and an ignition coil (also not shown) (so-called terminal 1 signal) and fed via an amplitude attenuator 1 to a low-pass filter 2, a peak value meter 3 and a pulse shaper 4.
- the output signal of the peak value meter 3 is digitized in an analog / digital converter 5 and stored in a measurement value memory 6. This is triggered by the signal of an induction transmitter, not shown, with a pulse shaper 7 connected downstream.
- the digital values of ignition voltage amplitudes for the spark plug to be tested are stored in the measured value memory 6 and averaged.
- the speed is detected with the aid of the speed-proportional signals supplied by the induction transmitter to the pulse shaper.
- the constant operating state is obtained with the aid of this rotational speed and an additional signal from a switch which is arranged, for example, on the throttle valve of the internal combustion engine and which is actuated when the throttle valve is closed.
- the ignition voltage amplitude is thus determined for this operating state with the aid of averaging.
- the test method includes determining the ignition voltage amplitude in the manner described when the spark plug is started up. For this purpose, a signal routinely triggered when maintenance is carried out is used. With this setpoint value obtained with the aid of the spark plug to be tested, the respective ignition voltage amplitudes are now determined in the same way, for example when the same operating conditions of the internal combustion engine are present, and compared with the setpoint value in a downstream processing stage 8. If the current value of the ignition voltage amplitude deviates from this target value by a predetermined amount, a warning signal is generated in a known manner or the degree of wear of the spark plug is indicated as part of a service interval display.
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| DE19833341880 DE3341880A1 (de) | 1983-11-19 | 1983-11-19 | Pruefverfahren fuer zuendanlagen von brennkraftmaschinen in kraftfahrzeugen |
| DE3341880 | 1983-11-19 |
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| EP0142817A2 true EP0142817A2 (fr) | 1985-05-29 |
| EP0142817A3 EP0142817A3 (en) | 1986-03-26 |
| EP0142817B1 EP0142817B1 (fr) | 1991-01-16 |
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| US (1) | US4684896A (fr) |
| EP (1) | EP0142817B1 (fr) |
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| DE (2) | DE3341880A1 (fr) |
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| JPS60119377A (ja) | 1985-06-26 |
| DE3341880A1 (de) | 1985-05-30 |
| EP0142817A3 (en) | 1986-03-26 |
| US4684896A (en) | 1987-08-04 |
| EP0142817B1 (fr) | 1991-01-16 |
| DE3341880C2 (fr) | 1987-10-15 |
| DE3483952D1 (de) | 1991-02-21 |
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