DE3923805A1 - Prevention of moisture condensation in boiler chimney - involves and moisture sensors which control fuel supply - Google Patents
Prevention of moisture condensation in boiler chimney - involves and moisture sensors which control fuel supplyInfo
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- DE3923805A1 DE3923805A1 DE3923805A DE3923805A DE3923805A1 DE 3923805 A1 DE3923805 A1 DE 3923805A1 DE 3923805 A DE3923805 A DE 3923805A DE 3923805 A DE3923805 A DE 3923805A DE 3923805 A1 DE3923805 A1 DE 3923805A1
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- fuel supply
- chimney
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- boiler
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23N—REGULATING OR CONTROLLING COMBUSTION
- F23N5/00—Systems for controlling combustion
- F23N5/02—Systems for controlling combustion using devices responsive to thermal changes or to thermal expansion of a medium
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23M—CASINGS, LININGS, WALLS OR DOORS SPECIALLY ADAPTED FOR COMBUSTION CHAMBERS, e.g. FIREBRIDGES; DEVICES FOR DEFLECTING AIR, FLAMES OR COMBUSTION PRODUCTS IN COMBUSTION CHAMBERS; SAFETY ARRANGEMENTS SPECIALLY ADAPTED FOR COMBUSTION APPARATUS; DETAILS OF COMBUSTION CHAMBERS, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F23M11/00—Safety arrangements
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
- F24H—FLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
- F24H9/00—Details
- F24H9/0005—Details for water heaters
- F24H9/0036—Dispositions against condensation of combustion products
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23N—REGULATING OR CONTROLLING COMBUSTION
- F23N2225/00—Measuring
- F23N2225/08—Measuring temperature
- F23N2225/10—Measuring temperature stack temperature
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23N—REGULATING OR CONTROLLING COMBUSTION
- F23N2225/00—Measuring
- F23N2225/26—Measuring humidity
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Abstract
Description
Die Erfindung betrifft ein brennerbeheiztes Gerät, zum Beispiel einen Kessel, Wasserheizer oder dergleichen, dessen Brennraum an einen als Abgasführung dienenden Ka min oder dergleichen angeschlossen ist, wobei diesem Ge rät innerhalb des Kamines mindestens ein einen Kennwert des jeweiligen physikalischen Zustandes messender und si gnalisierender, mit einer die Brennstoffzufuhr zum Bren ner des Gerätes steuernden Steuerung über eine Steuerlei tung verbundener Fühler zugeordnet ist.The invention relates to a burner-heated device for Example a boiler, water heater or the like, whose combustion chamber to a Ka serving as exhaust gas duct min or the like is connected, this Ge advises at least one characteristic value within the fireplace of the respective physical state measuring and si more gnalizing, with a fuel supply for burning ner control of the device via a Steuerlei connected sensor is assigned.
Sind die Abgasführungen solcher Geräte an Kamine ange schlossen, deren Beschaffenheit, Zustand oder Leistungs fähigkeit nicht voll den Anforderungen entspricht, besteht die Gefahr der Ausbildung von Kondensat an der Kaminwandung. Insbesondere besteht diese Gefahr bei soge nannten Brennwertgeräten mit vergleichsweise geringen Abgastemperaturen.Are the exhaust ducts of such devices on chimneys concluded, their nature, condition or performance ability does not fully meet the requirements, there is a risk of condensate forming on the Chimney wall. In particular, there is this risk with so-called called condensing boilers with comparatively low Exhaust gas temperatures.
Eine solche Kondensatbildung führt aber insbesondere bei alten Kaminen zu einer Versottung, die deren Leistungs fähigkeit zusätzlich mindert und zu gefährlichen Zerstö rungen der Kaminwandung führt, die deren Sanierung oder einen Umbau unabdingbar macht.Such condensation, however, leads in particular old chimneys to a sooting, their performance ability also reduces and leads to dangerous destruction stations of the chimney wall, the renovation or makes a renovation essential.
Aufgabe der Erfindung ist es, einer solchen Versottung und dem damit verknüpften Kostenaufwand vorzubeugen. Er findungsgemäß wird diese Aufgabe dadurch gelöst, daß bei einem Gerät der eingangs bezeichneten Gattung der Fühler sowohl als Temperaturfühler oder als Feuchtigkeitsfühler oder als Kombination solcher Fühler ausgebildet und eine Steuerung vorgesehen ist, die in Abhängigkeit von einem Grenz-Meßwert, zum Beispiel einer Minimaltemperatur und/oder einem maximalen Feuchtigkeitswert temporär bis zum Erreichen eines Soll-Meßwertes eine Brennstoffzufuhr zum Brenner veranlaßt, die höher als die jeweils betrieb lich vorgegebene Brennstoffzufuhr, vorzugsweise die maxi male Brennstoffzufuhr, ist.The object of the invention is such a sooting and to prevent the associated costs. He According to the invention, this object is achieved in that a device of the generic type of sensors both as a temperature sensor or as a humidity sensor or designed as a combination of such sensors and a Control is provided depending on one Limit measured value, for example a minimum temperature and / or a maximum moisture value temporarily up to a fuel supply to achieve a target measured value causes to burners that operate higher than each Lich predetermined fuel supply, preferably the maxi male fuel supply, is.
Eine solche temporäre Temperaturerhöhung verhindert die Kondensatbildung beziehungsweise verdampft allenfalls be reits auftretendes Kondensat unverzüglich.Such a temporary temperature increase prevents Condensate formation or evaporates at best Condensate that is already appearing immediately.
Die einzige Zeichnungsfigur stellt das brennerbeheizte Gerät, zum Beispiel einen Kessel 1 mit seiner Steuerung 2 dar.The only drawing figure shows the burner-heated device, for example a boiler 1 with its controller 2 .
Die an den Brennraum dieses Kessels angeschlossene Abgas führung 3 mündet in einen Kamin 4, in dem sich in einer von Fall zu Fall günstig zu wählenden Höhenlage zumindest ein Fühler 5 beziehungsweise 6 befindet, der über eine elektrische Signal- und Steuerleitung 7 mit der die Brennstoffzufuhr zum Brenner des Heizkessels 1 steuernden Steuerung 2 verbunden ist.The exhaust gas duct 3 connected to the combustion chamber of this boiler opens into a chimney 4 , in which there is at least one sensor 5 or 6 in an altitude that is favorably selected from case to case, via an electrical signal and control line 7 with which the fuel supply is connected to the burner of the boiler 1 controlling control 2 .
Bei diesem Fühler 5 oder 6 handelt es sich um einen Tem peraturfühler, der gegebenenfalls mit einem Feuchtig keitsfühler gekoppelt werden könnte.This sensor 5 or 6 is a temperature sensor that could possibly be coupled with a humidity sensor.
Dieser Temperaturfühler ist zweckmäßigerweise etwa in der Höhenmitte des Kamines 4 anzubringen und auf jene Soll- Temperatur als Grenzwert einzustellen, die in dieser Hö henlage des Kamines herrschen sollte, um einer Versottung vorzubeugen.This temperature sensor is expedient to be installed approximately in the middle of the height of the chimney 4 and to set the desired temperature as a limit value which should prevail in this height of the chimney in order to prevent sooting.
Bei einer Unterschreitung dieses Temperatur-Grenzwertes wird dann von diesem Temperaturfühler 5 oder 6 über die Signal- und Steuerleitung 7 und die Steuerung 2 des Gerä tes 1 der Normalbetrieb des Kessels temporär ausgesetzt (unterbrochen) und der Brenner auf eine höhere Leistung, vorzugsweise auf Voll-Last, gesteuert, und zwar so lange, bis der Temperatur-Soll-Wert, also der eingestellte Grenzwert, an der Anbringungsstelle des Fühlers 5 oder 6 im Kamin 4 erreicht ist und dies vom Fühler signalisiert wird. Der gleiche Effekt tritt ein, wenn ein Feuchtig keitsfühler 5 oder 6 eine Überschreitung eines Feuchtig keit-Maximalwertes signalisiert und dieser Feuchtigkeit durch eine temporäre Erhöhung der den Kamin 4 durchströ menden Abgase entgegengetreten werden muß.If this temperature limit is undershot, the normal operation of the boiler is temporarily suspended (interrupted) by this temperature sensor 5 or 6 via the signal and control line 7 and the control 2 of the device 1 and the burner to a higher output, preferably to full -Last, controlled, until the temperature setpoint, i.e. the set limit, is reached at the attachment point of sensor 5 or 6 in chimney 4 and this is signaled by the sensor. The same effect occurs when a humidity sensor 5 or 6 signals that a maximum humidity value has been exceeded and this moisture must be countered by a temporary increase in the exhaust gases flowing through the chimney 4 .
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Applications Claiming Priority (1)
| Application Number | Priority Date | Filing Date | Title |
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| AT0188888A AT397714B (en) | 1988-07-25 | 1988-07-25 | BURNER HEATED UNIT |
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| DE3923805A1 true DE3923805A1 (en) | 1990-02-01 |
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| DE3923805A Ceased DE3923805A1 (en) | 1988-07-25 | 1989-07-19 | Prevention of moisture condensation in boiler chimney - involves and moisture sensors which control fuel supply |
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| DE (1) | DE3923805A1 (en) |
Cited By (4)
| Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
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| EP0772011A1 (en) * | 1995-11-03 | 1997-05-07 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Heather with premix burner |
| EP0735331A3 (en) * | 1995-03-27 | 1997-05-07 | Bosch Gmbh Robert | Heater and method for regulating a heater |
| DE10132755A1 (en) * | 2001-07-10 | 2003-01-30 | Bosch Gmbh Robert | Measurement of condensation formation in a combustion plant chimney by determination of the difference in mass flow between upstream and downstream measurement points |
| DE102018202404A1 (en) * | 2018-02-16 | 2019-08-22 | Kutzner + Weber Gmbh | Preheating system for flue gas pipes |
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| Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
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| DE19515656A1 (en) * | 1995-04-28 | 1996-10-31 | Bosch Gmbh Robert | Heater and method for controlling a heater |
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| DE933150C (en) * | 1951-05-07 | 1955-09-22 | Andre Huet | Device for preheating the feed water of a feed water flue gas preheater |
| SU416523A1 (en) * | 1970-11-20 | 1974-02-25 | ||
| DE3839540A1 (en) * | 1987-11-23 | 1989-06-01 | Magyar Szenhidrogenipari | Method and apparatus for guaranteeing the condensation-free operating state of flue-gas draining systems |
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- 1988-07-25 AT AT0188888A patent/AT397714B/en not_active IP Right Cessation
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| Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
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| DE933150C (en) * | 1951-05-07 | 1955-09-22 | Andre Huet | Device for preheating the feed water of a feed water flue gas preheater |
| SU416523A1 (en) * | 1970-11-20 | 1974-02-25 | ||
| DE3839540A1 (en) * | 1987-11-23 | 1989-06-01 | Magyar Szenhidrogenipari | Method and apparatus for guaranteeing the condensation-free operating state of flue-gas draining systems |
Cited By (5)
| Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EP0735331A3 (en) * | 1995-03-27 | 1997-05-07 | Bosch Gmbh Robert | Heater and method for regulating a heater |
| EP0772011A1 (en) * | 1995-11-03 | 1997-05-07 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Heather with premix burner |
| DE10132755A1 (en) * | 2001-07-10 | 2003-01-30 | Bosch Gmbh Robert | Measurement of condensation formation in a combustion plant chimney by determination of the difference in mass flow between upstream and downstream measurement points |
| DE10132755B4 (en) * | 2001-07-10 | 2005-07-14 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Method and arrangement for determining the accumulation of condensate in a chimney |
| DE102018202404A1 (en) * | 2018-02-16 | 2019-08-22 | Kutzner + Weber Gmbh | Preheating system for flue gas pipes |
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| ATA188888A (en) | 1993-10-15 |
| AT397714B (en) | 1994-06-27 |
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Legal Events
| Date | Code | Title | Description |
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| 8101 | Request for examination as to novelty | ||
| 8105 | Search report available | ||
| 8110 | Request for examination paragraph 44 | ||
| 8131 | Rejection |